Oppopoll: Does this seat (w/o headrests) visually *work* in a 60s car?

"RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht" (ramblininexile) 04/27/2015 at 11:49 • Filed to: None

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Regarde: the middle row from a Toyota Sienna. Achieves separate adjustment, self-contained belting, and the advantages of a split bench. I’ve been trying to come up with something that equals this for the price, and I haven’t found it - as far as I can tell this is it.

505Turbeaux > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 11:56

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those armrests are a nice touch too. They would be okay in yours because it is going to be totally non stock anything. Is the width anywhere close to what you need?

BigBlock440 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:00

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Depends on the car, they look very wide. There’s also something with the armrests that may not look quite right.

Edit, they’re also not flat enough, but I’m not sure that would be that big an issue.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > 505Turbeaux 04/27/2015 at 12:02

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Width is supposedly 54”. Probably will *just* fit. Worst case, the outer armrests wouldn’t. I actually stumbled into these by accident looking at the split bench some earlier Siennas have in the third row... which is a cheaper alternative to the split bench from an FJ40. The FJ40 seat is fairly ideal, but hideously expensive and doesn’t offer any kind of support. For reference, the original bench looks like this:

(Mine is actually tan). Incredibly heavy, with minimal adjustment or anything nice.

KusabiSensei - Captain of the Toronto Maple Leafs > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:02

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You could have the 40/20/40 seat from my F-150. That would make a little more sense...

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:04

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What about a cloth third-row split-bench from a Gen 1 Sienna? It would visually fit better, and has some neat patterning.

crowmolly > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:05

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I think it would, as long as the interior colors are close. I would just color the red release buttons so they don’t stand out.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BigBlock440 04/27/2015 at 12:05

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The original bench looks like this, but the one I’ve got is very ratty. The width of the Sienna seat quoted by one source was 54”, which is 1” less than the rear axle hub face-hub face. It either fits as-is or would fit without the outer armrests - I think.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BigBlock440 04/27/2015 at 12:07

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The original option buckets looked like this. Taking away the classy console, there’s not a whole lot special to them.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 04/27/2015 at 12:09

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That’s actually what I started thinking about, but the hinges are huge on it and weird looking. I ended up looking at the 60/40 third row from a gen 2 Sienna, but that has some other issues. The nice thing about the second-row from the current gen is the level of support and such things as leather being available, or leather + cloth.

505Turbeaux > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:10

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it would be kind of sweet to have pseudo “captains chairs” in there, but the inboard armrest is the only thing I really need in my life. There is a window on the other side... Interesting though. One thing to consider is if those seatbelts are pretensioner loaded. I mean, the 3 points are going to be miles above a lap belt, but you would only be using the mechanical backup reel tensioners if you needed them

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:10

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Nope

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > crowmolly 04/27/2015 at 12:11

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Might paint ‘em white. That’s the “controls color” in a ‘63.

Alex B > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:14

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Eh, It’s kind of awkward. My family has a previous gen odyssey and the bolstering of the captains chairs makes it kind tough.

Also Odyssey>Sienna

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:14

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What about a bench from a Chevy Uplander? It looks nice and fits with the vibe of the vehicle.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/27/2015 at 12:14

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Pictured: the bolstered seats in a Series III Rover - introduced in ‘81 but in a car that wasn’t changed since the early 70s.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 04/27/2015 at 12:16

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Hmm, maybe. I’ll add it to the list. I’m torn on the issue of bolstering - I want benchitiness, but I’m not sold on sliding across the car in turns or ruining my back on trips.

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:17

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Cough cough, crown vic, cough cough.

crowmolly > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:18

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Are you definitely going bench? The Procar Pro-90 low is a nice looking seat.

G_Body_Man: Sponsored by the number 3 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:19

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I’ve been in the third row of one of these on an extended trip. The bolstering isn’t too much of an issue, and the seats are one of the comfier minivan benches. It just seems that the bench from the third-gen Sienna is a bit clunky and would look out of place in a classic.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire 04/27/2015 at 12:19

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?

Arch Duke Maxyenko, Shit Talk Extraordinaire > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:21

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BigBlock440 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:22

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Right, the newer ones in question have armests and some bolstering. Most old cars that have buckets, like yours, also have a center consol and are apparently narrower. My concerns are purely visual, that they may just look too wide. Only way to know for sure though is to do it. Surely there’s a wrecked minivan in a junkyard near you, should be cheap enough to try it out (seats are $20 or $30 at my local yard, depending on if they’re power).

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > crowmolly 04/27/2015 at 12:22

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That is indeed a nice seat. Pricey, though. I’m trying to at least have some level of bench hybridization there for the look and utility, though.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BigBlock440 04/27/2015 at 12:23

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Some friends of ours recently got a current gen Sienna. I need to see if the seat can be burgled out of it easily for comparisons.

If only EssExTee could be so grossly incandescent > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:23

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Panther platform.

crowmolly > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:24

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Yeah, the integrated 3-pts is a really nice feature of the seats you first posted. Even if they don’t exactly “work” that makes things a lot easier.

BigBlock440 > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 12:27

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Good call, I assume being a minivan it’s easily removable. Then you won’t be stuck with the seats if you don’t like them.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > BigBlock440 04/27/2015 at 12:31

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Also, being a minivan middle row, it has an adaptable structure and probably doesn’t weigh a huge amount. That’s one of the problems with the original bench - it weighs I think ~150lb. That’s past 5% of the curb weight of the car, for pity’s sake.

RallyWrench > RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht 04/27/2015 at 14:07

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I’d do the upholstery in a more period material & pattern, but the seat itself looks nice.

RamblinRover Luxury-Yacht > RallyWrench 04/27/2015 at 14:37

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It’s actually only the 2015-on that’s striated horizontally. The ones before are vertically-lined, and there are covers available.

This is one of the more common setups - cloth on leather rather than whole-leather. Since I’m going to be putting a jumpseat in the back, having a seat that doesn’t look too far off from a Smittybilt is a plus.